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27 May 2008 @ 05:47 pm

http://www.mrsuper.org/2008/05/florida-michiga.html

The history of the Florida/Michigan problem.

 
 
22 May 2008 @ 05:37 pm
So Michigan and Florida were perfectly legitimate primaries that were no different from the others? Look at the map. Of those primaries that were contested in both parties, Democratic turnout was higher in all but 5 states...Arizona (John McCain's home state), Utah (Mitt Romney's Mormon paradise), Alabama (The Reddest of Red States).....and Michigan and Florida. As if there weren't enough reasons to believe Michigan and Florida were not legitimate, it's pretty clear that only a certain percentage of those who would have voted actually voted in the primaries so they do not accurately reflect what the will of the people would have been if the primaries had counted at the time.

 
 
 
21 May 2008 @ 08:09 pm

And yet more proof that the Clinton campaign doesn't give a shit about Michigan and Florida and are only pushing for them out of self-interest. Bottom line is 4 years ago, Terry McAuliffe, as DNC Chair, took the exact same position on Michigan that Howard Dean and the DNC have taken this year yet this year, as a member of the Clinton campaign, McAuliffe has been vehemently calling for the exact opposite. It's a complete sham, typical of the Clinton campaign. Of course, this adds to the fact that Hillary Clinton was quoted AND signed a document saying that Michigan and Florida will not count and she will not participate in their primaries.

An excerpt from Terry McAuliffe's book:

"I'm going outside the primary window," [Michigan Sen. Carl Levin] told me definitively.

"If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," I said. "We will have chaos. I let you make your case to the DNC, and we voted unanimously and you lost."

He kept insisting that they were going to move up Michigan on their own, even though if they did that, they would lose half their delegates. By that point Carl and I were leaning toward each other over a table in the middle of the room, shouting and dropping the occasional expletive.

"You won't deny us seats at the convention," he said.

"Carl, take it to the bank," I said. "They will not get a credential. The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

We glared at each other some more, but there was nothing much left to say. I was holding all the cards and Levin knew it.

 
 
14 January 2008 @ 04:51 pm
 If I had to bet, I would now say the nominees will be Hillary Clinton and the winner of Michigan tomorrow, either McCain or Romney. Obama might win Nevada and South Carolina but probably not by much and Hillary will probably win Florida and get the media bump despite them having no delegates. I just don't think Obama has the time to turn the big states on Super Tuesday. Whoever wins the Republican side will probably get enough of a bump to win Nevada and South Carolina and then roll right through Florida and Super Tuesday. Of course this is all assuming there are no major gaffes or tears shed. Obviously, it would probably help Obama if Edwards would drop out and endorse him instead of continuing to strip away "Change" votes.

I'll throw out new rankings though little has changed except for Bill Richardson's exit and a drop to 3 tiers instead of 4.

1. Barack Obama (D)(small gaffe when he said his 2004 comments were to protect Kerry/Edwards)
2. John McCain (R)(media ignored his "one way ticket" joke that was probably over the line)
3. Ron Paul (R)(needs to work on debate skills to slam opponents)
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4. Fred Thompson (R)(aided by process of elimination)
5. John Edwards (D)(please drop out and endorse Obama)
6. Hillary Clinton (D)(continues to mislead about her and Obama's record)
7. Mitt Romney (R)(killed by his terrible pander-filled campaign)
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8. Mike Huckabee (R)(nice guy, not qualified to be President)
9. Rudy Giuliani (R)(stop telling Ron Paul his logic is flawed)
 
 
 
 

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